Fender silverface vs blackface reissue driver

Fender silverface reissues page 2 fender stratocaster. The filtered signal then gets boosted by the reverb driver amplifier. Deluxe reverb reissue vs vintage fender stratocaster. In addition to service and repair he builds great custom amps. But while that might essentially be the case for the 65 reissue deluxe reverb, twin reverb, princeton reverb and super reverb, the 68 custom models have actually been updated to offer even more features that will appeal to players looking to combine traditional blackface sounds with the look of classic silverface amps. The non electronic techs guide to understanding the classic ab763 blackface circuit.

The video demonstrates four vintage fender amps played with a clean sounding strat and a beefier telecaster at the end. Includes modifications for the 65 deluxe reverb reissue and 68 custom deluxe reverb. Comparing 9 original fender blackface amps twin showman. I have even tried vintage silverface amps, about 4 or 5, and to be honest i never liked them. These do indeed have the most wonderful sounding reverb of any fender amp. The twin reverb is the king of fender blackface amps.

After having the opportunity to put it next to a silverface tr and listen, i put mine up for sale the next day. Fender twin reverb 85watt vintage silverface guitar combo. Tubes for the fender super reverb 5ar4gz34 the fender super. Fender twin reverb 1976 silverface price guide reverb. Not designed for the blackface or silverface reissues. Of course, any rabid excitement over this amp is justified by far more than its unsullied condition. I love the blackface tones better than all other eras of fenders so the sfbf. I too was one whos first gigging amp was a silverface 1973 twin reverb.

What are the actual mechanical differences that would account for them. Fender twin reverb 1975 silverface guitar combo amp. Fender medium combo amp cosmetic refurb kit for original 1960s blackface and pre1975 silverface fender deluxe, deluxe reverb, princeton, princeton reverb, tremolux, musicmaster bass, vibrolux reverb models which use 4 58 long chassis straps. Tubes for the fender showman blackface and silverface the fender showman blackface and silverface amplifier requires the. Some 12at7s that will work just fine as phase inverters v6 will crackle and hiss in this position. It was usually a 12at7, for the same reasons as the reverb driver above. Never much of an explanation besides being told they sound horrible. If you wish to use modern tubes in such amps, stick to a true 6l6gc or kt66. Not many differences between blackface and silverface on fenders smaller amps.

I have never owned a reissue deluxe, but i did own a reissue twin reverb. Some of those silverfaces were factory blackface anyway. Early 70s fender twin reverb silverface 85watt vintage guitar combo amplifier. Blackface and silverface refer to the amps from the 60s and 70s, when the control plate where the knobs are mounted were black in the early period, until the late 60s and later silver. I am on the fence now between getting another silverface and hoping that the problem was not the model but the specific amp i got, or just spending a little bit more and getting a 65 reissue, since every single one of the blackface amps ive tried had no hiss at all compared to the silverface ones. The 65 princeton reverb reissue has gone on to become a best seller that, apart. From that and other smaller value caps on the power tubes resulted a loss of the sound quality, namely less sparkling highs from the blackface design. Fender twin reverb 85watt vintage silverface guitar combo amp. Fender 1966 super reverb vs reissue can you hear the difference. The pro originally called the professional is one of fender s oldest amp designs.

Dont discount blackface silverface bandmasters either. Fender 65 twin reverb reissue blondes have more fun fsr limited edition 85watt 2x12 guitar combo. Many fine recordings have been made by artists throughout the years using those garbage silverface amps. Fender offered three versions of the champ during the blackface period. Joe bonamassas 5 most underrated amps premier guitar. The later silverface circuits were changed further by cbs to become cleaner, harder and thinner sounding. Ab763 blackface amp model differences rob robinette. One of my kids just got a blackface reissue princeton. Eventually, however, fenders silverface amps were being played more and more people were priced out of the beloved blackface line. Tubes for the fender super reverb 5ar4gz34 amplified parts. Beginning in late 1963 and continuing into mid1964, fender used up remaining old tweed style champ chassis and cabinets, but with blackface cosmetics. I think hed be really happy with an original blackface deluxe reverb id swap out the speaker for a darker one, but thats me, almost as happy with a siverface, and at least okay with a reissue as long as he didnt knock it around. Fender silverface reissues discussion in amp input normal or bright. Fender silverface reissues fender stratocaster guitar forum.

Discussion in amp central station started by appar111, sep 29. The amp was gone over some caps were replaced which is normal. I am on the fence now between getting another silverface and hoping that the problem was not the model but the specific amp i got, or just spending a little bit more and getting a 65 reissue, since every single one of the blackface amps ive tried had no hiss at all compared to the silverface. Vibrolux reverb 1964 vs 1975 blackface vs silverface. Fender brought back the blackface cosmetics for a short time in 1981 before discontinuing the champ the following year. If you want to work on the amp yourself or plan on reselling for a profit, get a vintage amp. Hiya, i have a tvl jm on order and am looking to upgrade from a gold rush blues jr at the same time. Of course, the jbl speaker in there is a big reason for that, but all the same it was a fabulous sounding amp. The ab763 design is also to be found in some silverface amps between 1967 and 1969. The champ switched from blackface to silverface four years later.

Replacement tube packages are available for fender tube amps. Includes modifications for the 65 deluxe reverb reissue and 68 custom deluxe. Fender introduced a reissue 65 super reverb in 2001 featuring a printed circuit board design rather than the handwired circuitry of the original 65 super reverb. The reverb driver 1m grid leak works with the 500pf reverb filter cap to. The original twin was supplanted by the twin reverb in 1963 which has since earned a place as one of fender s most iconic amps. In the mid60s the pro was replaced by the pro reverb, and the design was changed to the silverface style in 1973. Fender offered a full range of amps in their blackface line, ranging from the diminutive champ to the massive twin reverb. Blackface and silverface shootout deluxe reverb and super reverb. Due to this the silverface bandmaster reverb is less powerful, has less attack and breaks up earlier than the blackface bandmaster. Ab763 was fenders internal model designation for the 1963 blackface circuit. All the blackface and silverface amps were originally covered in black tolex. Ive owned quite a few sf and blackface fenders, and borrowed or had rented several reissues. When you see a soughtafter blackfaceearly silverface fender on the internet, and the price is very low, it makes you have doubts.

The twin was fender s original two 12inch speaker tube amp launched in 1952. Improvements were made that were supposed to make the blackface era amps cleaner and louder. Instead of buying a reissue which are probably great amps as well, you have enough cash left over to buy another 6 space lunchbox to support your 500 series module habit. Some early fender 6l6 tube amps can use any of these types. Even after a cursory glance at joe bonamassas twitter and facebook page, its easy to tell this guy is into great vintage gear. Fender pro reverb 1979 silverface price guide reverb. Fender vibrolux reverb the ultimate club and recording. Vibrolux reverb 1964 vs 1975 blackface vs silverface youtube. From the rows and rows of fender combos to a few vintage marshall stacks, bonamassa doesnt discriminateif its a benchmark for a great guitar tone, he has one or seven. Like other fender amps, the pro evolved in the 50s and 60s with different cabinet styles. Fender silverface reissues page 3 fender stratocaster. Fender amp preamp tube layout and recommendations kca. I would rather have an original silverface that a reissue they are cheaper i imagine than a new amp.

The reverb circuitry consists of two tube sections reverb driver v3 and reverb. Princeton reverb blackface vs princeton reverb silverface. Its generally accepted that these changes tonally degraded the blackface designs. Whats the main difference of silverface and blackface fender amps besides the timeframe that was built and price difference of course. Paul rivera sr explains the mods on the fender 68 deluxe reissue demo. Starting in 1968, fender began the move into the silverface era under cbs owned fender. Well, tweed refers to fender amps from the 50s, when they had cloth coverings. Fender twin reverb 1978 5 watt ultra linear local pickup only. Fender twin reverb 85watt vintage blackface guitar combo amp. The vibrolux reverb, whether blackface or silverface, has long been regarded as one of fender s greatest utility amps, and many players hail it as the best and most versatile grabandgo combo ever produced.

Fender silverface reissues discussion in amp input normal or bright started by thekid, apr 29, 2017. Fender forums view topic silverface vs blackface twin. The silverface bandmaster amps got a 5u4gb tube rectifier and the vibrato channel got reverb. The difference from blackface and the price they fetch is fender increased the voltage in the silverface circuits. Do they actually sound that much worse than their blackface counterparts. The other day i saw an amp advertised as a 74 silver, yet it had a master volume. The classic sound of the 1950s and 60s excellent tone, maximum lifetime. Fender reissue amps fender issue amps percy, apr 30, 2017. Difference bw silverface and blackface amps the gear page.

The perfect choice for vintage tweed and blackface amps such as the 1960 bassman. Whats the difference between tweed and blackface amps. Because of the high demands placed on this tube by the fender reverb driver design, its important to get a good quality 12at7 for this slot. Blackface silverface champ discussion in amp central station started. Why do we need a 68 model of this classic amp when fender already have a 65 in. While the tone stack is different, they have great cleans and take pedals well also. Starting in the late 60s, the twin reverb switched from blackface to a silverface style c. Later fender blackface and silverface tube amps should not have 6l6, 6l6g, 6l6ga or 6l6gb installed, due to higher operating voltages and currents. Really enjoyed it better than the blackface twins and drris i have tried. Princeton reverb blackface vs princeton reverb silverface discussion in. Leo fender was famously known as a skinflint when it came to minimizing production costs. Many of those where still hand wired and many are great amps, well at least i think. How the fender ab763 blackface deluxe reverb amp works. Sometimes there are obvious ways to tell if the year posted is wrong.

An sf champ is still fairly reasonably priced as vintage amps go. Fender used the smaller cap to trim some bass because the matching blackface extension cabs. As usual the later silverface models were modified to become cleaner and more. I have a 63 fender reissue stand alone reverb tank pcb. Early models in 1968, while cosmetically silverface, did contain blackface circuitry. A fender tweed champ, original or reissue, will set you back.